Speckle ETABS Connector

Hi Everyone,

Are you a structural engineer or know a structural engineer who’s been waiting for that CSI connector to ETABS? If so have I got news for you, I’m currently working on an ETABS connector so if you have any structural models (ETABSv18 as of now) that are available for sharing and testing purposes, it would be greatly appreciated if you could share them with us.

Regards,
Reynold

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In addition to structural models, if you have any way you envision speckle being used in a structural context i.e building a structural model from grasshopper or drawing lines in rhino to rebuild in ETABS or maybe converting from one structural model to another. Please let me know and post it here as well !

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Ping to those who expressed interest in structural stuff in the past (hope you don’t mind it!):
@jenessa.man @mike.kovacs @kelvin @tlmn @smz @AlBal2 @mikegat

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@Rob

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Hi @Reynold_Chan,

I’m very interested to see how the Speckle Structural Object Model will look like and how it will interact with the BuiltElements model for interoperability with BIM. I’ve been using the definitions of @jenessa.man to do some first tests for a connector with SCIA Engineer. Happy to discuss!

Kelvin

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Hi! No problem at all, I’ve scribbled a few thoughts below… You probably know how sketchy a lot of engineering programs can be for drawing in so being able to stream geometry in from Rhino, Revit or Grasshopper would be the dream. More of the job now is about trying different options, so being able to branch for different variations while still having a main branch for the base option is a really neat way to organise the project. For a lot of projects we tend to use the analysis model to get loads on different members then take a dive into designing those separately from the analysis model using spreadsheets or our own in-house scripts and software (just because the design modules in analysis software are never quite right for what you want to do or clunky as hell). Being able to stream out results that can be interpreted for design would be awesome.

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It is possible to access the E-tabs API and implement it. If you want to send an Analytical Model from Revit use Rhino Inside to extract the model to grasshopper and then you can use Geometry Gym Plugin for Grasshopper to send the model to E-tabs.

I am studying the E-Tabs API , I am really interested to contribute to develop a connector. I need your help @teocomi @Reynold_Chan

Yes ! how are you finding those elements? We’ve just pulled Jenessa’s branch into our main so they’re there to use and play with.

Sounds awesome, how do you imagine these formats of these results to be most useful? Spreadsheets for days? Or being able to visualize the results inside Rhino as well ? not sure if the latter is too useful since all structural programs have their innate visualization.

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It would be awesome if everyone could tap up API calls to get the results data that they need to play with it but in practicality spreadsheets for days might be more likely…

Hi Tejas, yes I’m currently working on developing the ETABS connector. We already have a branch on the repo in speckle sharp. GitHub - specklesystems/speckle-sharp at structural/ETABS Check this out. If you have any ideas on what you envision it to do in particular to help you in your workflows let me know !

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Hi @Reynold_Chan,
So far they are working out alright, though I have only been using some of the basic elements. I’m more used to the SAF model, but the required info seems to be there.
Two small comments that I already shared with Jenessa as well:

  • why the name “structural” and not simply “structure”?
  • there seems to be duplicate data in the Model object (restraints are already defined in nodes, materials are already defined in properties and properties in elements)

Curious to see what will be made of it!

Kelvin