Also worth noting that the downloaded .zip most likely needs unblocking.
- right click on it before unzipping > properties
- check Unblock at the bottom
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Hey there,
I’ve been playing around with the Grasshopper 7 DUI3 alpha branch and I’m super impressed so far - much snappier from a UI perspective, I like being able to manage multiple imported models easily, the debugging functionality is great , and looking at the structure of the repo it’s clear a lot of thought has gone into things.
I might have asked this before but just to confirm - is the plan this time around to totally lock down the converter dlls to each plugin? To be clear I think that’s a good move, as it would hugely simplify the administration (Revit releasing with locked versions of Dynamo is a great example).
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Thanks for checking DUI3 out and for the nice feedback Chris!
We might have missed mentioning it in the announcement, but yes, you’re correct.
Kits as you know them are going away - Connectors will directly reference them and I believe we’ll provide alternative ways for 3rd party developers to extend/override the default conversion routines.
We’re also looking into adding versioning to our Objects kit, to enable faster release cycles on our end and fewer conversion conflicts.
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Thanks for the reply - one of the implications of this change that is interesting is that Objects suddenly goes from “an object schema for Speckle” to “THE object schema for Speckle” which is exciting - might be something to take into account on the documentation side of things, have a proper schema breakdown
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@chris.welch we’re glad you’re excited by what we’re cooking. We have more to share here. But it’s still in the mixing bowl, hasn’t even made it to the oven but could end up as the cherry on the cake.
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Hey @Community - we’re making this a bit more proper. We’re now officially entering the “Open Beta” phase. Let’s see if I will remember to change the title of this post 
You can read all about it here:
OR if you want a shortcut to the goods:
https://releases.speckle.systems/v3
Let rip - we’re all ears. First impressions, good or bad, share them with us!
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Building on my last feedback, generally very positive, but a couple of issues that stood out this morning -
- Revit uploader having just a publish button was confusing - a greyed out “load” button might more clearly indicate, we can push and pull, just not yet
- Clicking on the dead area above and below the setup steps kicks you back to the first page, including when you’re pretty deep into picking a model etc
- converting, serialising, uploading, linking text is good and helps put the whole thing in context
- conversion report gets a bit laggy on large reports after bringing multiple pages in (this also happens on the home screen of speckle when tabbing through projects) but clicking on objects centering them is great
- there now seems to be metadata being added to the revit/rhino project - great for long running projects, can see how this would be good for populating a template at start of project, but probably needs a file path based fallback when a read-only file is being synced, as I will always open, push, and close without saving, and it would be useful for the speckle link to be maintained without saving
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Just gave it a spin.
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Sends are not visible on perkinswill.speckle.xyz. So its hard for me to test real cases. These revit samples are way too far from reality.
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While changing the filter, sometimes I don’t want to Save & Publish, if my new selection is large and is gonna take too long.
- Determinate loading indicator (32%) is super nice! Serializing and uploading are indeterminate still, which in my experience is the one taking longest.
- Very slow upload? I think I have good connection. Actually, I noticed the upload state doesn’t get updated. After 981 bytes/sec it just jumped to “Done”.
- Select element that failed is so good!
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Thanks for the feedback!
There shouldn’t be a problem with any decently up-to-date server. I wonder what would be the cause! Let me know if you have more clues here.
Legit, i think there’s even a commented out button that does that. We can uncomment it/bring it back.
Treat those numbers with a pinch of salt. @adamhathcock might have more insights, but it’s a top of mind issue right now to make the whole process more determinate and improve reporting in that stage.
I’ll ask the web team - we’re using the default ui components - to see if we can toggle that behaviour off.
We’re planning an overhaul here, primary hitter right now will be stopping to report successful items. Ie, if all is ok, why bother?
This is a bit more complex, but we’ll keep it in mind. File paths are not ideal, as they can also change (i know rarely in the case of a real project, yep). It’s a legit usecase.
Keep hitting!
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I’ve actually tested with our service account on your server, and things seem fine! @vwb do you think you can gimme more intel on what happened?
It magically worked now. Earlier in the morning I could not see any geometry (even thought the data seemed to be loaded by the frontend). Now its there. Will send some big boys
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Missed the fact that this is for rhino 7. Works in rhino 8. managed to get 24000 balls to load. took a minute but once online works well.
https://app.speckle.systems/projects/1a169c644c/models/72ddb8cee0@3a8f8c4629
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You’ve got… a lotta balls man Here’s the following challenge: in the same session, send those balls out, then move one and update.
Let me know how fast the update is 
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I just want to add to Chris point, because an app I develop had a similar feature and very we soon we realized how expensive is to “save” the model. Sync to central, etc, all that good stuff…
We had to fallback to save metadata on disk using a hash based on lots of info from that file. Sketchy but we haven’t heard. From 2024 there is actually a “Created Guid” to uniquely identify a Revit file that you can leverage.
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Hi. Moved 1 ball and reloaded. Now I get a blank screen.
https://app.speckle.systems/projects/1a169c644c/models/72ddb8cee0
loads fine here:
This is unrelated to anything connector related - it’s probably down to the interaction between viewer, available resources, and browser.
We’ve heard you guys. I raised a ticket to get to this!
Thank you. Great that it works for you. I can not see the 24000. the 8000 works fine. I tried it with vivaldi browser and chrome.
Might be time for a fresh install of windows.
